He threatened to remove his patronage from him which was all of 1.50pounds a month, he has since done so.
In his mind it's losing the "prestige" of having Lloyd Evans as a Patron that is the real punishment for Andrew Gold.
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His sister won’t have anything to do with him and it’s nothing JW related. Does anyone else remember the video he made about her doing a sponsored run then he took it down because she didn’t want his support.
In his book, it was hinted that they had a distant relationship. It had much to do with their mum and how Lloyd felt he was her intellectual equivalent and true bearer of her legacy. He dedicated the book to mum and bestowed her name upon his second born as a middle name. Lloyd's telling of the events surrounding her death gave a few details:
Lloyd was the first she called from hospital when she got her terminal cancer diagnosis. After he had time to process the information, he called his sister who was in field service at the time. He met her and she demanded to know on the spot. He resisted but she kept pressing so he revealed it to her in a car park. Naturally she became upset and hysterical as Lloyd described it. He made it seem like he was the only "adult in the room" as his sister was in complete panic mode and his dad was waxing on about seeing mum in paradise. He complained of having to drive as she sobbed uncontrollably in the back seat on the way to hospital and offered little support to his sister.
At the funeral Lloyd seemed to take centre stage as the others were grieving. He brought his acoustic guitar and performed "Life Without End At Last". From that point on he continually described his sister as having emotional problems but really lit into his dad. He labelled him as a chronically unemployed simpleton who had no business being with his mother.
During the time before his disassociation, his dad actually seemed to take a moderate stance (JW-wise) towards his apostasy. Lloyd had earlier admitted he was going inactive due to questions about the doctrine and his dad flew to Croatia to see him. He knew about the website and made it clear he disapproved but would shun him if Lloyd took action to disassociate. Nothing was ever mentioned about his sister and her reaction to his DA and one is left to speculate they fell out sometime before this.
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Can you just imagine what is going on in the minds of his JW father and sister right now?
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I got the impression he made the threat after doing the recorded interview, but yeah "don't listen to the other side" is something that people in the right rarely say.
After hearing the podcast which came out before the video, many were tweeting at him to interview Kim Silvio and get her side since Lloyd kept mentioning her name in his interview. Andrew had made the comment in the live chat that he did not plan on having her on until Lloyd saw these tweets and contacted him on Twitter DM warning him he would sue if Kim showed up on any video of his.
Andrew took a poll during Lloyd's video to have Kim on and it was an overwhelming yes, so he decided at the last minute to have Kim on a planned Q&A that was originally only going to feature him. Instead it became an impromptu rebuttal video.
Play silly games, win silly prizes. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Karlo Novosel's office tomorrow as he's going through his late night voicemails.
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Lloyd has threatened to sue Andrew Gold if he does a follow-up interview with Kim Silvio. He said so in the live-chat. Andrew also said Lloyd has severed his friendship with him and has withdrawn as a Patron. Kim Silvio is being interviewed right now.
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Please give me some words to express the full and deep extent of my contempt and disgust, because I am struggling here.
Wach this clip from Trading Places.
Trading Places (3/10) Movie CLIP - Those Men Wanted to Have Sex with Me (1983) HD - YouTube
"How can the man I love, whose children I wanted to have, and breastfeed be a heroin dealer!"
"It wasn't heroin! It was angeldust, PCP..."
That entire clip is Lloyd coming back from Thailand.
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Las Malvinas - thanks for taking the bullet so we didn't need to listen to his whine.
Yes, I really don't recommend listening to that unless you want to get riled up. Think of it as Lloyd's middle finger to the community. And due to Andrew's avowed support of him and thinking there's nothing wrong with married people seeing sex workers should be enough for us to not give him the views and subscribers he desires.
After listening to his point about how all this controversy is making it difficult to reconcile with his wife is reason enough to keep the pressure on her to not take his ugly ass back.
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LAST ONE:
Andrew asks about his mental state and states that Kim doesn’t agree with some of the over the top things that are said about him. Lloyd states that it is interesting that Kim is saying that now, but it’s a little bit too late after she has put this all into motion. Says he wont talk too much about Kim because he is “litigating against her”. Says exJWs carry immense emotional baggage, hang-ups and taboos regarding sex with no shortage of judgmentalism. Blames Kim for hurling accusations which as a result have snowballed into something else.
“What Kim Silvio did was so invasive, Andrew, I’ve said at the time I can’t imagine feeling that much different if someone came into my home and burgled me and gunpoint and rifled through my possessions. Keeps mentioning Kim Silvio by name ever after he said he wouldn’t mention her because of the litigation. Keeps saying it was invasive and goes on a rant. Says that directly led to false allegations of Patreon funds being misused and being involved in sex trafficking. “It’s hard enough dealing with the true stuff, but layer on all the defamation, insinuation and all of the lies”.
“It really has pushed me over the brink”. Says the only thing that is keeping him going in activism is that he hates to see bullies win and it’s clear he has support from the remaining patrons and people giving positive comments on the channel. Says he has spoken to other content creators and it has left them “shellshocked”. Says this entire debacle has driven some content creators to retire but doesn’t specify if they are exJW or otherwise.
“Once the mob decided you need to be destroyed, you get torn to pieces and there’s no recourse or some kind of independent arbiter on YT”. The internet is forever, mentioned his kids who at 3 and 7, and at some point in the future they are going to have to deal with all of this. All he can do right now is hire lawyers and hold the people who are doing this over the next few years accountable so he can point this out his children as being vindicated. All this boils down to is a “lack of kindness and a lack of basic human empathy and compassion”.
Andre asks that since Lloyd is on the progressive side of things politically, has this “bullying” given him a new insight into cancel culture? Lloyd says he has always had a nuanced view of cancel culture, he’s against a mob of unknown and unaccountable individuals floating all this information on Twitter and deciding to destroy people. He’s very much about principles, social justice and equality and if that makes him woke, fair enough. Almost anything can be weaponised and taken to an extreme and this applies to woke culture as well. Feels that woke and cancel culture are generally good and seek to provide kindness, but then circles back to Kim taking things to extremes.
Says he is taking things day-to-day and is in a better places than he was 1-2 weeks ago and the anti-depressants are helping. Turned a corner now that the medication is starting to have an effect. Says that he still has enough money to maintain operations and pay Tibor. The big issue now is sorting out his own mental health and the issues within his family. Says his attempts to reconcile with his wife has been stunted due to all this controversy. As for his marriage, it’s too early to tell for him as to what this will result in but feels that he has already hit rock bottom so there is hope.
Lloyd says he’s like to make a few more videos as he still has something to say, but would like to be in “glorious isolation” like Luke was in the new Star Wars trilogy on the remote island. Says he would just like to write books because he’s a writer. He’s like to have a boat and go fishing at weekends and being with his family. Stresses how hard this has been on all of them, including the children. Says he is sure Jessica (he names her) will have memories from this period. Again brings up Ukraine and seeing hospitals being bombed, and says it’s not as bad as that. Says he drove to the Hungary-Ukraine border to pick up refugees.
Andrew concludes that he knows there are people listening to this that are out to get Lloyd, and to think about the human factor and how his family is suffering. Be careful of what you write on Twitter, think about that anger and what it will achieve.